BAC Water Armageddon?

F

Food_Done

Active member
So, with the possibility of Hospira BAC requiring a script soon thanks to sneaky big pharma, I've got a few questions for the peptide experts:

1) Besides Hospira, any other reliable BAC water brands out there?

2) What's the oldest BAC vial you've used that was still good? I suspect it lasts longer than the suggested month.

3) Considering vials typically come in 30ml and peptide vials need only 2-4ml, how do you avoid waste? Mixing a 30ml vial into multiple smaller sterile vials a bad idea because the smaller vials go bad? Are folks pre-loading multiple syringes?
 
I'm looking at it like the price of doing business. Lots of people are using it past the expiration. I personally use mine for about 40 days and open a new one - feel like I've gotten good use out of it by then. If a case was about $270 then that's like $9 bucks for about 6 weeks. A bit much, but not terrible considering we're operating in a gray area. Someone will come along with a replacement, or this BAC will find a way back.
 
Yeah, it's becoming a really common discussion.

I think we're partly to blame for all the increased attention by constantly buying from the same sources and creating panic whenever there are rumors of availability issues.

BAC always technically needed a script. It's just purified water with a little alcohol. Medical suppliers didn't care about the prescription because they probably didn't expect anyone to ever enforce that rule. I think Pfizer could be doing this because Novo and Lilly pressured them, not because they're worried about abuse of their expensive alcohol water.

I think we'll all be better off finding dependable Chinese BAC sources with consistent pH, or even making our own. For all current GLP-1s except cag, I'm not even that worried if the pH isn't perfect, especially compared to those mystery waters on Amazon. If we just started buying pH test strips, we could stop relying on Hospira. We could do the same thing we do with our vials of magic powder and just assume that at least some of the Chinese sources will get it right, especially since it costs much less.

I'm still using BAC vials that expired in the middle of last year. I'll use it all until it's gone, which takes me about 4 months. But don't follow my example, decide your own risk tolerance and do what you're comfortable with.
 
Same here. My current BAC vial is about 4 months old, and I think it will last a couple more.
 
I've spent months researching how to make my own BAC, and have even posted about it. I prefer to study first and prepare in advance, instead of rushing at the last minute. I'm happy with the formula I've settled on, but I haven't bought the supplies yet because I got a flat of BAC before prices went up. I'm also confident that making my own will be more reassuring than buying water from random sources. That's just my risk tolerance. BA, sterile water, sterile vials are all easy to find.
 
I heard that some people on another forum got telehealth providers to prescribe BAC water and send it to them. Apparently, it's cheap and works pretty easily.
 
A lot of folks tried that a while back when there was another shortage. The issue was that many pharmacies don't have BAC on hand and have to order it. I'm wondering if this shortage and increased costs will make that option just as expensive. How much does a telehealth appointment cost? If it's too expensive, it defeats the purpose of saving money.
 
I think it depends on the telehealth service. You often pay a monthly fee plus the appointment fee. Most are in the $120-$170/month range plus a $60-$80 doctor fee per visit, along with the cost of the prescription. So there probably isn't much savings.

This is an interesting discussion, though. I was just talking about this exact thing since I'm running out of BAC and seeing the price increases. Peptide addicts, lol.
 
I think there are still some places selling Hospira BAC for $10-$15 per vial right now (for now, at least), which isn't a terrible price, especially if you're buying other stuff from the same supplier. I'd like to hear from people who have used telehealth for BAC to find out what the total cost was, so we can see if that's a viable option.

I think my first BAC bottle cost about $20 way back when I started all of this.
 
My first case of BAC water only cost me $80. Those were the good old days. I just managed to get it for $160 this past week, which is still decent.
 
I almost ordered a case when it was $95, but I thought I should wait, and then the price went up to $240! Right after I ordered it, the price dropped to $210. After that I found out I could've just gotten a case of BAC saline for like $90. I swear, anything that can go wrong seems to go wrong with me.
 
I probably need to check out some other vendors, but I like the ones I use. They don't carry BAC and it would be easier to buy a whole case of it.

I'm still seeing it for $20. My original BAC source was $13 and now it's $18.
 
In the UK, there are sites that sell tanning injections, sema, and now triz. A lot of those places allow you to buy BAC at the same time because of bulk buying for suppliers. I've been using the MT and sema from those places for some time and buy the water for a couple of bucks, which I'll use for my sourced reta.
 
Real question - with the problems getting BAC, and the limited supply, what difference would it make to switch to saline?

I mixed vials with saline while I was overseas, so realistically, what's the difference between BAC and BAC saline?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top