Enclo While Cutting? Thoughts?

[perkycoasting60]

Both influence hormone output. Certain medications would raise fsh levels, letting natural production get measured directly. Boosting testosterone would also raise igf levels. Get testosterone optimized first before anything else.

 

[lean_tofu]

On the enclo versus TRT question, there's genuinely less long-term data out there. Standard TRT itself carries basically no risk, some people just need an estrogen blocker alongside it, others end up donating blood periodically.

 

[chill-runner77]

Totally get that. For eighteen months I have tried to raise my low T without meds, starting near 380 and reaching 460 through improved recovery. Following 6+ months of that I tried enclo. I know 460 isn't THAT low, but I'm just sick of constantly low energy.

 

[m3_maybe14]

I first went to my doc to get on enclo and haven't told him about anything else. He mentioned the change in my body, but I haven't explained how I got there beyond logging calories and hitting the gym regularly, which I really do. Not sure how to approach it. I have bloods done every 4 months regardless. I'm only on Reta, but I'm weighing extra additions to my stack.

 

[Ant_Crew]

I was under 300 when I began enclomiphene (7.5mg/day), and two months on I was close to 500. It prompts your own body to produce T. Tirzepatide is in the mix as well, so I'm shedding weight and my insulin numbers are falling. I'm hoping that as my metabolism gets closer to normal, I can get natural T production back.

 

[indigo_midjourney92]

Four months on 12.5 mg enclomiphene with great results. It tends to push up estrogen and SHBG while crushing IGF-1. Total T doubled from 600 to above 1200 at first. Even lifting like crazy, gains were minimal until I added tesa/ipa, which lifted my IGF-1 to slightly above baseline. To keep estrogen down I used a minuscule anastrozole dose on alternate days, and felt great with solid gym gains. Wanting even more, I started an ostarine cycle. Holy crap, it changed everything. After two weeks, total T was back to 600, but SHBG collapsed from very high to very low, tripling free T! I am nearly done with the 8 week cycle and my gains beat what I expected. Almost daily people ask how Im getting this look at my age, 63. They assume full blown AAS.

 

[cottage_stacker]

I'm cutting now, male, 51 years old, 5'9, weighing 202lbs two weeks back and 195 now, using reta at 3mg per week plus 200mg of testosterone cypionate weekly. Calories are 1700 on rest days and 1800 on lift days, with 190-200 grams of protein. Regulars on my plate are unsweetened Greek yogurt topped with blueberries, shakes, and homemade lunch and dinner. I weigh and log all of it. It runs low carb, though protein is my only macro focus. Tirz took 70 pounds off me, starting February 2025, and I've stayed there half a year or more. Just tuning things now. Never expected abs at 51, yet here they are. My signature photo was taken just a couple days ago.