FOXO4 DRI vs Mots-C: Which first?

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Okay, seeking some wisdom! I've got some SR9009 60mg and some NAD+ 800mg arriving soon. I read a few posts suggesting to start with FOXO4, but other protocols suggest running SR9009 with NAD+ and Mots-C.

If you could only snag one right now, FOXO4 or Mots-C, which would it be?

FYI, I'm currently on Reta and some CJC. Plus, intermittent NAD+ and Glutathione. I'm a female in the latter half of my 50s. Just trying to be smart about this. Any insights would be so appreciated!
 
I really felt like MOTS-C made a difference when I tried it. I'm not sure about the NAD+ and I think SS-31 might've been placebo. By the time I got to MOTS-C, I was just about done with the whole experiment, but I'm pretty sure that's when I noticed I wasn't as tired.

I'm open to the idea that all 3 worked together though.
 
Thanks for the input, TheQuest280, I appreciate it!

I wonder if maybe only those of us over 40 see a difference with NAD or SS31? Everyone I know taking Mots-C is in their late 20s or early 30s and they all love it! But my circle of pep users is small. I'll probably end up buying both and experimenting myself.

My bank account is crying and my freezer is overflowing! ugh
 
I'm wrapping up the 15-week protocol with NAD+, SS31, and mots-c. My brain definitely seems sharper now and I rarely need an afternoon rest. I didn't notice any crazy changes while actually ON the protocol, but I feel I am able to accomplish about the same now as I did 15 years ago in a day. I'm a guy in my early 60s.
 
You think I MIGHT be in my 20s or 30s?! I LOVE you for that! I'd be making better choices than I did the first time around, if that was the case. Maybe.
 
Almost 50 here, and on week 3 of NAD+ and SS31 of a 15 week protocol. My sleep tracker says I'm sleeping like a rock. Also have the juice to hit the gym twice a day now. I'm so ready to add mots-c to the mix!
 
Thanks for sharing your progress, Gym_xo753! I'm going to look into this protocol. Your results sound promising! I could definitely use more energy, especially to skip those afternoon naps!
 
I'm almost done with that protocol too. I'd suggest going with Mots-c first. Then maybe run a FOX04 cycle afterward. I'm a male in my 40s and been out of shape and metabolically challenged. After running this cycle, I sleep deeper, go to the gym after work, my home projects are getting tackled, and I just feel like I'm in better health, mentally and physically. I'm also taking Reta and just started a Tesa/Ipa combo. I want to give FOX04 a try, but the price is scary! So, I can't really give you any firsthand thoughts. But I can say Mots-c is awesome!
 
Totally agree, Vinnie1986! I saw some vials on a BST, but I'm still trying to save money and hoping for a group buy. I've seen kits priced from 200 to 700, but without COAs. I'm new to the grey area, and I like to stick to a few organizers/reps/suppliers. I feel safer that way. Thankfully, all my transactions have been good so far...
 
Thank you all! I'll start with Mots-C, since I already have everything else for the 15-week protocol. Then, hopefully this year, I'll get FOX04. No need to rush, and I'm hoping for a group buy, because this hobby is really pricey!
 
Can I ask, Gym_xo753, what else are you running? I want to get to where you are at, with the energy to hit the gym twice a day?! That's my goal! 🔥
 
One place has kits for $360 and they have COA’s on everything they sell. The shipping is pretty fast, but expensive, at $90, unless you spend $850+ then it's free.
 
I used to inject frequently! Current stack is ss31 and nad+ in the AM, glo blend after the morning workout. Glow blend again in the evening, and ipa+ cjc before bed (fasted)
 
Yeah, I don't look like that either, lol. No extra time. I don't know how this happened. Did it used to be easier to get stuff done when I was younger?
 
Are you guys getting FOX04 or FOXO4-DRI? They are different.

If anyone knows a place to get (grey) Foxo4-dri kits, let me know.
 
Just saw that someone here has FOX04 DRI on their price sheet. I've never used them before.
 
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