Shortest needle for drawing?

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ThinFixed853

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I want to get some syringes with really short needles, like the ones on the pens - like 4 or 5mm. Do they make those? I'm just wondering how SHORT a needle can be and still poke through the rubber cap to get the dose out. The pens don't draw, so it doesn't matter. Anyone know about how thick those caps are on the vials? What's the shortest I could go and still be able to draw?
 
Those rubber stoppers aren't that thick, maybe 4mm. I know because sometimes when I'm pulling the liquid out, I gotta pull the needle back a little to get everything.
 
You seem kinda new to this. When you're drawing from the vial, you'll just see how thick the stopper is. Just try it out. You won't accidentally get a needle that's too short.
 
I used to just have the brand-name pens, so I haven't dealt with any of this before. I'm getting some peps soon, and I want to buy syringes that are long enough to draw, but kinda short for injecting (like the pens). I guess 6mm would be safe?
 
My compounding pharmacy started me on EasyTouch 31G 1ml, 5/16 (8mm) long, also called u-100 insulin syringes. I never feel the needle going in, and they go through the bac water and peptide stoppers with no problems. I got 100 at a local store for about $20. I haven't used anything shorter. 8mm isn't that long when injecting at a 45-degree angle into fat. I halved a bac stopper and the thinnest point was about 3mm in the center, but off-center it was closer to 5mm because of the conical shape that gives it strength.
 
I thought about the pens, but there seem to be so many steps and things that could go wrong. I'm sure it's easy, but I want the simplest option. And I only inject once a week. If it was more often, I'd use a pen.
 
There aren't any extra steps if you're planning on using a filter anyway (and you should be).
 
I've been injecting for a few months and just got some pens this morning for when I have to inject when I'm out of the house. I get it, it can be intimidating! I've been doing fine with insulin syringes so far. I got over my fear of needles to do this, and the 5/16 needles work. I can barely feel them.
 
I found these online: BD Veo Syringes, 31g, 1cc, 6mm. They come in boxes of 90, which is weird. They're a little pricey, almost $30, but if you want a short needle, here you go. I've used them, and I don't see a difference between 6mm and 8mm.

I can draw my dose with them, as long as I aim for the middle of the stopper. But I'm probably going back to the regular 8mm syringes just because they're cheaper.
 
Subq for TRT?

Thanks for the info on the 4mm needles. I'm going from kinda fat to just overweight now, so I probably need a shorter needle if I'm pinning at 90 degrees.
 
1/2" in the delt is in the muscle for lots of people. But subq TRT is fine too, it's just not as common because some people inject like 3ml of oil instead of the tiny amount a real TRT dose is.
 
I have been reading that when you use BPC-157 to heal an injury, you should inject it close to the injury. I just had rotator cuff surgery and can only use one arm. I'm doing sub-q in my stomach fat because it is easier to reach. Is this still going to work?
 
Kit_85 said:
I have been reading that when you use BPC-157 to heal an injury, you should inject it close to the injury. I just had rotator cuff surgery and can only use one arm. I'm doing sub-q in my stomach fat because it is easier to reach. Is this still going to work?
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Well, according to some, it shouldn't really matter since it goes systemic anyway. But I've been injecting close to my shoulder injury, and it seems to be helping. If you decide you want to inject your shoulder, you can do it with one hand. It might be a little awkward, but it's doable.
 
I agree with Herculean Habits. Micro-dosing close to the injury might allow the injured area to absorb more BPC-157 before it becomes fully systemic. There isn't solid evidence for this, but personal anecdotes suggest it might be more effective. For example, if you're using 500mcg, inject 100mcg in four spots around the injury and the final 100mcg directly in the center. This technique was around for IGF-1.
 
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