Stalled? Tira bump or switch to Reta?

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Shapexx said:
Personalized dosing sounds amazing. I'm tired of just following the standard schedule.
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I agree - pushing for small changes instead of the usual dose jumps made a huge difference for me. Maybe talk to your provider about it!
 
Six weeks of Terz is workable timing to make the switch - 8mg Reta can restart a stall, and some respond better to the mechanism anyway. Have next supply lined up before you're deciding under pressure.
 
The switch both ways story is useful context. 25 pounds in 2 months on Tirz and then switching to Reta for speed - if it meant coming back to Tirz, that's relevant for your partner's decision. 7.5mg with 75 down and close to goal is a good spot. A dose bump might get them there without switching.
 
Reta after Tirz is exactly the adjustment problem - the Tirz appetite suppression is strong enough that anything else feels like a step down at first. You gotta give Reta a few months before comparing it fairly to what Tirz did. The cornerstone effect fades but the Reta mechanism works differently.
 
The slower Reta titration has benefits beyond side effect management - the glucagon receptor component produces a more pronounced metabolic shift as dose increases, and the body needs time to adapt to the combined triple-agonist load. Rushing the schedule can also make it harder to identify the minimum effective dose.
 
Wouldn't recommend titrating upward here. Had a procedure that required a six-week break due to anesthesia concerns. Restarting afterward, under my doctor's watch, hit me like a truck.

Might be worth pausing first and then restarting from the lowest starting amount.

My own path looked different, I dropped a consistent ten pounds monthly across the early dose levels. Oddly stalled right at the ten milligram mark, and my doctor had me stretch the interval between doses out to ten or fourteen days, which strangely got things moving again. Currently back down to 7.5 and still losing steadily.
 
Currently running the dual-action compound alongside the third one and consider myself a strong responder. Lost weight steadily for eighteen weeks straight without a single stall. Plenty of others have a totally different experience and run well over double my amounts. Instead of increasing further, they've got the option of adding a fourth compound to break through a plateau. Have thought about setting some aside in my freezer as a backup plan. Doesn't cost much either. As I get closer to my target, I know the fight could get harder and progress might slow down some.
 
Three weeks into reta now, easing up slowly. Tirz never budged my weight and left me with cortisol spikes jolting me awake around 2 to 3am, every single night. Turns out I'm apparently one of the rare few whose sleep trouble on it never settles down. Nothing like that has shown up on reta so far, still watching and waiting.
 
Started on reta first and stalled for a long stretch. Ran into rough reactive hypoglycemia and figured moving to tirz made sense since that issue seems rarer with it. Now running tirz alongside another compound and it's working well. Really helped break through that plateau.
 
As long as Tirz keeps your appetite suppressed at whatever dose, there's little reason to escalate. Reta's edge on Tirz comes from GCGR signaling, which depends on dose, and the ceiling on raising it may be side effects, depending on goals and biology. The faster, and up to a point the more, GCGR signaling you get (plus the BMR/TDEE lift), the better Reta could perform, since unlike Sema and Tirz it isn't mainly about appetite control.
 
Rule of thumb: if you're losing on a dose, stay until you plateau, which means a month. With side effects plus a plateau, still stay put because moving up will probably worsen them. A bigger dose won't bring more loss or quicker loss. Trust your knowledge of your own body and stay proactive. Should you feel unready for an increase, say so to your doctor. I have type 2 along with other conditions, and neither my A1C nor my weight moved until 10 mg. After that, nine months brought me to a normal weight and BMI. I dropped my dose so I wouldn't lose more. March of last year is when mounjaro started for me. Good luck.
 
I tried tri earlier, appetite suppression was strong and the scale dropped. Switching over to reta gave a big energy jump, though hunger returned. After I added tesa the weight went up. Did you break your stall once you quit tesa/ipa, or did a higher reta dose do it?
 
Rising food noise near the end of each week is likely what's behind your plateau or regain. Reta is usually stronger overall, but for food noise itself it's weaker than tirz, so a single weekly shot might make that end-of-week noise even worse than now. Switching or not, splitting your dose into smaller shots to even out the food noise ups and downs would probably help most.
 
The consensus I've picked up is that choosing Reta depends on many personal factors. Lots of veterans think it shouldnt be the first choice, for many reasons, which someone may spell out or a search may reveal. For me, I figured I'd consider Reta only if my weekly loss goals werent met. Not losing too fast has its advantages too. I hit goal in 7 months, 64lbs total, roughly 1.5lbs weekly, my desired pace. A year of that pace, or 100+ lbs, would have suited me too.
 
i hit the same wall on a high tirz dose. added reta in and slowly swapped the balance, easing tirz down while bringing reta up, and that's what finally broke the stall. working through the last 15-20 pounds now, slow going. in your position i'd want to ease the pace, dropping too fast carries real risk. aiming for somewhere between half a percent and two percent of current weight weekly tends to be the safer long term approach.
 
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